Monday, December 4, 2023

Goku Calcs

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Updated cosmology

Dragonball’s cosmology exists in a large microcosm. Heaven is stated to be the size of the universe in the anime.


I’m going to assume Heaven is the volume of our observable universe. Then I’m going to turn the volume of heaven into a number of px3. I can then cross reference that number with the measurements of everything else.

Heaven planet diameter=50px=914156299468166462387030302 meters

1px=1.8283126e+25m

Heaven planet radius=25 px

Mortal world diameter=325px

Radius=162.5px

Kai planet diameter=90px

Kai planet radius-45px

Everything diameter=573px

Radius=286.5px= 5.2381156e+27 m


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observable_universe

https://www.omnicalculator.com/math/pyramid-volume

https://www.omnicalculator.com/math/sphere-volume


Volume of heaven(assuming observable universe size)=65,450px3=4e80m3

1px3=6.1115355e+75 m3

Volume of everything=98,505,956px3=6.0202265e+83m3 (1505.05 x larger than the observable universe)

Diameter of entire microcosm=1.0476223e+28m

Radius of microcosm=5.2381115e+27m


Expanded cosmology (guidebooks/Heroes)

Some guidebooks imply universe 7 is infinite in size (“Galaxy” and “Universe” profiles)

DB Heroes has infinite timelines

DBH game world timelines

Heroes has the extra dimensional Crack of time outside its timelines

There’s a handful of pocket dimensions or spaces between the 12 universes. Like the world of the void, hyperbolic time chamber, DeadZone, Realm of Instant, Zeno’s palace, a multiplayer pocket world from DB fusions and the swirling light dimension.


Multipliers

Official multipliers are as follows


SSJ=50x

SSJ2=2x

SSJ3=3x

SSJ4=10x


Kioken’s highest multiplier is 100x in Lord Slug (Canicially Goku has only used up to 20x)


SSJG has no official multiplier. But as its another branch of SSJ, it could be assumed to be at least 50X


SSJB combines SSJ with SSJG, meaning SSJB is at least 50x SSG


MUI has no multiplier. Just assume it matches the highest official multiplier for a form (100x) for simplicity. (There’s also arguments it's comparable to the jump in power afforded by Fusion as a high end).


Note: MUI, SSG, and Kioken are all technically separate techniques. They can all be mixed in matched. Ex. SSJB is technically a hybrid form combining SSJ and SSJG together. Goku Black in Heroes has shown you can potentially combine SSJG with SSJ3.


“Low end” multipliers

For a low end, let's assume Goku growth can allow him to destroy all 12 universes in all 7 canon timelines his base form(Goku’s supposedly on par with Broly, who was previously on par with Blue Gogeta, who’s stronger than Jiren, who was stronger than Fused Zamasu, who on par with Blue Vegito who is stronger than SSJG Goku was in the battle of gods arc)


Then let’s bump all his “canon” forms up to the highest official multiple we’ve got(100x kaioken). 


Using all the official multipliers for his canon forms in Super. 


So 12 x 7 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 = 8.4e+15x


"High end" multipliers

For the sake of this fight let's just make the numbers the highest possible. Let’s assume every multiplier is 100x. That Goku can destroy all universes and all timelines in base. Use every form, even from conflicting timelines. Then extrapolate his power by another 100x for every year of an average Saiyan lifespan, including the years Goku already lived (80 years total).


So 12 x 7 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100 x 100e80 = 8.4e+99x

General strength feats

OG Series

Goku moves a boulder

DB ep 19 7:16 Goku pushes an even more massive boulder

A pretty simple feat. We can measure the size of the boulder using Goku as a base.

https://www.reddit.com/r/dbz/comments/7uju5h/all_the_characters_heights_official_and/ 


Goku=197px=124cm

1px=.629cm

Bottom rock segment width=917=568.54cm

Bottom Rock segment height=495px=306.9px

https://www.omnicalculator.com/math/rectangular-prism


Vollume 99201660 cc

Top rock segment width 1 =531px=329.22 cm

Top rock segment width 2 =568.54 cm

Top rock segment height=215.14 cm

https://www.math.net/calculators/trapezoidal-prism-volume

Volume 54905069.441cc

Total volume=154106729.441cc


https://www.aqua-calc.com/calculate/volume-to-weight 

387.58 tons


Z

Goku weight lifts

  • DBZ ep 56 17:57 Goku works out in 100x gravity

  • DBZ ep 207 12:01 Goku lifting 40-ish tons of weight in the anime


To put this in perspective an average 200 pound male would weigh 2000 pounds under 100x gravity 


Super

Jiren shakes the null realm

DBS ep 109 9:00 Its stated the entire null realm is shaking, due to Jiren’s power


It’s stated that the Null realm is shaking due to Jiren’s power. The Null realm is supposed to be a realm of nothingness outside of the normal multiverse. The arguably more accurate translations state the null realm is “Eternal” (as in a “temporal” measurement), but the location can be interpreted as infinite based on other translations.


Potentially infinite

Low end speed feats

OG Series

Goku dodges lightning

DB ep 127 21:43 Goku dodges out of the way of a lightning bolt

Lightning = 224,000 mph=mach 291.94449


Goku travels to the moon

DB Ep 9 21:50-22:11 Goku extends the power pole to the moon and back in less than a minute# arsenal 


Distance to the moon is 384,400 km. So 768800 km for a round trip.

768800 km per 21 seconds=36609.5238095 km per second

=0.1221162268515107 sol


Z

Goku pushes Cooler into the Sun

Cooler’s revenge 41:53 Goku pushes Cooler into the sun with Ki blast 

Takes from 42:00-42:30, so 30 seconds.

Distance to the sun is 150 million kilometers 


5000000 km per second=16.67820476 sol

MFTL Speed feats

Z

Goku reacts to asteroids

DBZ ep 50 15:29 Goku reacts to asteroids flying at him while being pulled forward from a tether of his FTL spaceship.


This ship was on its Way to Namek from Earth. Namek is located outside of the north quadrant of the universe where Earth is at(Namek isn’t under King Kai’s jurisdiction).

King Kai says Namek is beyond his jurisdiction https://mangadex.org/chapter/f2357af6-1d37-4044-9a68-2334bbea670f/14 https://mangadex.org/chapter/ac98d6a9-a6a6-474e-b992-72c0ef326c33/1

 Goku’s ship will take 6 days to get there.


Lowball and say 1/4th of the normal observable universe's diameter in 6 days.


914156299468166462387030302 meters/4

2.2853907e+26 meters per day

=8823197696988.09375 sol


Goku flies to hell

DBZ ep 195 17:42 Goku and Pikkon fly from Grand kai’s planet to hell

Travel takes between 17:42 and 18:14, so 32 seconds


Distance between Grand kai’s planet and hell based on the cosmology diagram=190px=3.3439973e+27m

/30


1.0449992e+26 m per second= 348574212630792704 sol


Goku collects Ki

DBZ ep 285 21:33 The Ki Goku collects for the spirit bomb can travel from earth to the supreme kai's planet for the spirit bomb in less than a minute


The travel is between 21:00 and 21:50


Distance between Kai world and microcosm based on the above cosmology calculations is

71px * 1.8283126e+25 =1.2981019e+27m

/50 seconds


 2.5962039e+25 m per second = 86600040485341360 sol


Super

Speed of Goku and Beerus punch shockwaves

DBS ep 12 5:51-6:04 Goku and Beerus perform a physical clash that releases a shock wave that travels over earth and to the Kai realm in seconds 

  • DBS ep 12 9:06,9:19 Goku and Beerus create more impact waves. The also move in tandem with them when produced


Radius of universe 7=  5.2381156e+27 M


The feat takes 13 seconds =  4.0293197e+26 m per second= 1344036379994589440 sol


low end multipliers= 1.1289906e+34 sol


High end multipliers= 1.128991e+118 sol

Infinite speed arguments

Z

Cooler and Goku’s instant transmission

  • RCooler 22:30 Goku and Cooler both fight using instant transmission. Both travel through the realm of instant. Cooler is able to travel into this realm and grab Goku, despite Goku entering said realm first  

  • “Anime: Metal Coola used this in the movies. But his opponent Goku used the same technique, and he battled Goku in the space they moved through” 

  • Goku and Kid Buu travel into the realm of instant https://youtu.be/y5UyBoLZlVQ?t=36 


Infinite 


Zeno Erases a timeline

  • DBS ep 67 10:12 Goku summons Zeno with his call button. Zeno decides to destroy the entire multiverse along with Infinite Zamasu using his erase ability 

  • DBS ep 67 11:41 Zeno wipes away all of existence in the future timeline to get rid of Infinite Zamasu 


Technically other Gods and TOP combatants have been shown to be too fast for Zeno to keep up with. 


Infinite (debatable)


Infinite Zamasu

  • DBS ep 67 1:49 Zamasu’s disembodied essence multiplies infinitely and turns into ether that merges with the future timeline. Making him omnipresent.
  • DBS ep 67 6:27 Goku and the others Block attacks from infinite Zamasu


Infinite (debatable)


Mechikubura’s black hole

The emperor of the demon realm and one of the entities Mira/Towa are always trying to revive. After regaining his youth from the dragonballs and getting to his highest level of power, he’s able to absorb all space time. Goku later defeats Demigra using Mechikabuara’s power


Infinite/immeasurable

Low Level AP feats

OG series

Roshi destroys the moon

The moon’s diameter is about 3474 km, and its surface gravity is .166 that of Earth’s. Plugging that into Star Destroyer gives a high-end value of 1.110E+37 kj.


Metric: 2973.23135755 Yottatons.

Universal AP feats

GT

Omega Shenron’s negative energy can destroy the universe

  • GT ep 62 16:52 The Kai says the planet, galaxy, and the entire universe will eventually be destroyed by Omega Shenron’s negative energy  


1505.05 x universal  


Low end multipliers= 1.264242e+19x universal


High end multipliers=  1.264242e+103 universal



Super

Beerus and SSG Goku can destroy the universe

DBS ep 13 6:01, 6:49 Whis says at most they can limit the destruction of Beerus and Goku, their star system and some of their closer neighbors. But it’s very likely the energy will destroy the entire universe

DBS ep 28 18:15 its stated Beerus and Champa fighting would destroy the 6th and 7th universes


1505.05 x universal


Low end multipliers = 1.264242e+19x universal


High end multipliers= 1.264242e+103 universal


Multiversal and higher AP feats


Heroes 

Goku’s power threatens space/time

Xeno Goku’s SS4 form is so powerful it can destabilize all space time.


Multiversal+


Demigra scaling

Demigra is a recurring villain in Xenoverse, Heroes, ect. He’s generally portrayed as a former Kai of time candidate that Chronoa sealed away and desires revenge against the cast because of it. In Xenoverse he absorbs Toki Toki, and plans to recreate all timelines after erasing history. Cast members like Xeno Trunks, Super Goku and the playable avatar in Xenoverse fight him in this state. 


Multiversal+


Mechikabura scaling

The emperor of the demon realm and one of the entities Mira/Towa are always trying to revive. After regaining his youth from the dragonballs and getting to his highest level of power, he’s able to absorb all space time. Goku is later able to defeat Dimgra using the remnants of Mechi’s power.


Low comp Multiversal
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