Sunday, June 5, 2022

Suggested Media: Hercules vs Sun Wukong


 Hercules

Greek Mythos (Heracles Specific Stories) - https://www.theoi.com/greek-mythology/heracles.html
https://www.timelessmyths.com/classical/heracles.html

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/Herakles/labors.html


Sources for Greek Mythology, philosophers, and its cosmology.
https://creationconcept.info/FIRM/RF_fgreek.html
https://orb.binghamton.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1262&context=sagp

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_of_Miletus#Theories


Other Important Sources

https://www.britannica.com/place/Mount-Olympus-mountain-Greece 

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Elysium-Greek-mythology 

https://digitalmapsoftheancientworld.com/mythology/greek-mythology/underworld-gods/ 

http://www.maicar.com/GML/Underworldmap.html 

https://archive.org/details/houseofhadesstud0000albi 

https://www.theoi.com/articles/what-is-the-greek-creation-myth/ 

https://www.khanacademy.org/humanities/big-history-project/what-is-big-history/origin-stories/a/origin-story-greek 


Actual Book Readings (gasp reading)
Robert Graves - The Greek Myths (Complete Edition)
Apollodorus, Michael Simpson, Leonard Baskin - Gods and Heroes of the Greeks (The Library of Apollodorus) (1976)


For Fun


-Disney Hercules (1997) (yes, it’s nothing like the actual myth, but it’s still great)

-Marvel Hercules

-Parcast’s Mythology series on Hercules

-Mythological web comics

-Young Hercules (1998) starring Ryan Gosling


Sun Wukong


Journey to the West (1592)

Note: The two translations of Journey to the West we used for research are Anthony C. Yu’s 4 volume translation, and the translation on InnerJourneyToTheWest.com 

https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/J/bo12079590.html 

https://www.innerjourneytothewest.com/english/books/JTW/index.html 


The original Chinese text for Journey to the West can be found here.

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/23962/pg23962.html  


A Supplement to Journey to the West (AKA Tower of Myriad Mirrors) (1641)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Supplement_to_the_Journey_to_the_West 


Sources for Journey to the West’s cosmological concepts

https://journeytothewestresearch.com/ 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMQeFiwacbQ 


For Fun


-Lego Monkie Kid (seriously, watch it)

-Journey to the West TV Series (1986) 

-Havoc in Heaven (1964)

-Parcast’s Mythology series on Sun Wukong

-Dragon Ball (1984)


Other
Greek 101 
My 100 page rant on how Hades was actually a pretty chill dude and why he's been SLANDERED and MISREPRESENTED in media. Cept for this guy apparently.
Wait it Heracles not Hercules?

7 comments:

  1. please don't forget about Lychoprhon's Alexandra in your Hercules research
    Hercules scales to Zeus

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    1. How much exactly and based on what feat

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    2. During a War between the Gods and the Giants, there is a prophecy about how the Gods will be led by a mortal with the power to content with the Giants. That mortal is Heracles.
      He's also fought Hades in some versions of his own myths, who's directly compared to Zeus/Jupiter.

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    3. I don't think he has ever fought hades. Maybe you mean thanatos

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    4. No, It is Hades.
      https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Apollod.+1.9.15&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0022

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  2. I'm really looking forward to this. Quick question: Will you guys incorporate Plato's Theory of Forms into the Greek God scaling?

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  3. As fan of Sun Wukong, I recommend other media (non-canon) like "Boku no Son Goku"(ぼくの孫悟空) and "Hong Haier: Juezhan Huoyanshan"(紅孩兒:決戰火燄山)
    Although not well known internationally, but they are still great media for original novel.

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