Title: DEATH BATTLE Predictions: Hercule Satan VS. Dan Hibiki
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Backstory
Hercule
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When the World Martial Arts Tournament had ended and Goku and friends headed to Namek, Hercule arrived on the scene and became the World Wrestling Champion (in the Manga, though most translations fixed it to Martial Arts Champion). This lead him to become a famous celebrity around the world and with that came lots of money, publicity, and an ego.
His first appearance was during the Cell Games where he was the first to compete against Cell. He was quickly knocked out of the arena by one smack. He even competed in the 24th and 25th World Martial Arts Tournament (though the 24th was Anime Exclusive) and won both. Of course due to plot reasons the big fighters were gone and 18 took a dive, giving him the victory.
That is pretty much it for Hercule's story. He had a daughter that he cares about. While deceptive and someone who more or less lied to the entire world he does have SOME honor. And compared to the non-Z fighters, he is impressive.
Dan
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Dan's father, Go Hibiki, was a Mix Martial Artist and rival to Sagat. The two were bitter with each other as Go gouged out one of Sagat's Eyes and Sagat killed him for it. Dan was after revenge and looked to be trained by Gouken to gain the strength to defeat the man that killed his father. Gouken saw the intention of Dan's reasons and expelled him from learning. In turn, Dan created his own style of fighting called Saikyō-ryū, mixing elements of Muay Thai and the Ansatsuken style Gouken taught.
In the events of Street Fighter Alpha 2, Dan faces Sagat and defeated him, though only because Sagat let him do so. This in turn gave Sagat a new outlook on life and he became the Emperor that has no need for the powers of a God. With his vendetta avenged, Dan opened a Dojo to spread his fighting style to others. Between the events of SFA3 and SF4, Dan met up with Sakura and Blanka and became friends, friendly rivals, and even a teacher to them (though Sakura was using him to get to Ryu, and pretty much intentionally forgot all his training).
That's a lot of depth for a character created to poke fun at SNK's Ryo and Robert.
Weapons/Armor
Hercule
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Jetpack
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A Capsule Corp. dual thruster jetpack that allows Mr. Satan to hover, fly and maneuver around the battlefield at high speeds. Different models of jetpacks have been used by Mr. Satan over the years, but generally his best models allow for indefinite flight, as well as the ability to expel fire from the back as a short range attack.
45 Caliber gun
http://i.imgur.com/JEYJvYO.jpg
A 45. caliber gun Hercule uses in cases of emergency.
Rocks
Hercule throws rocks at his opponents in the Tenkaichi series instead of using ki attacks like the other characters.
Mines
Hercule uses some kind of mine like weapon as one of his attacks in Zenkai Battle Royal.
Grenades
http://i.imgur.com/lZBm8Bx.jpg
Mr. Satan has been known throw grenades at opponents in various fighting games.
Rocket launches
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Hercule has used various rocket launchers in DBZ games. For example a Rocket Launcher Hercule uses in the Butoden series is some kind of over the shoulder chambered model. A launcher he uses in Zenkai Battle Royale is a larger ground based rocket launcher.
Megaton Special Mortar
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An explosive mortar type weapon that combusts upon contact with an enemy or object. Mr. Satan can throw this object a long distance as a projectile weapon or detonate right next to himself to create a buffer between his enemies.
Baseball Bat
Hercule could use a baseball bat to reflect the Ki attacks of the other characters in one of the Shin Butoden games. This is a bit more humorous as far as abilities go. We’re not sure how seriously you should take it.
Game Poy Bomb
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A device that is designed to look like a Nintendo Gameboy video game console, but is actually a highly explosive remote controlled bomb created by Mr. Satan. Mr. Satan will often feign surrender to stronger opponents and give them this object as a peace offering; only to detonate it seconds later once he’s safely out of range. In the original DBZ series this bomb was completely ineffective when Mr. Satan attempted to use it against Majin Buu (due to Buu having outlandish endurance). However given Hercule used it with the intention of Killing Buu, it can be assumed the blast it creates would be deadly to normal human beings (or potentially even slightly superhuman ones).
Dan
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Dan has a pink Gi, fighting gloves, and virtually nothing else.
Skills & Abilities
Hercule
Dynamite Kick
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A series of powerful side and roundhouse kicks that strike around the enemy's head or midsection areas and catapult them back several feet.
Satan Punch
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A signature attack of Mr. Satan that holds a surprising amount of physical strength, despite appearing to be an ordinary punch. Interestingly his punch WAS stronger than all the other human fighters, Videl and even a Giant bear thing when ranked against them in the world martial arts punching qualification test, so it does hit quite hard.
Dynamic mess em up punch
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An attack where Mr. Satan barrages his opponent with a series of punches to the head and midriff, that initially seem to have no effect, but then spontaneously causes them to take extensive damage and be catapulted backwards upon the final punch.
Miracle Knee
An evasive maneuver used in Xenoverse. It was based off Hercule feigning a stomach illness in the anime.
Rolling Hercule Punch
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An attack where Mr. Satan will roll along the ground (or in the air with the aid of his jetpack) , and ram into his opponent several times, before blasting them away with a quick series of punches.
Hi Tension
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A supportive technique that envelopes Hercule in a blue & white aura that dramatically increases his physical strength.
Hercule Special
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Hercule knocks his opponent on the ground, sets up a camera and poses in front of them so it appears as if he has won the preceding fight. This attack does not do any physical damage to the enemy, although it can somehow lower an opponent’s Ki reserves to a minimum.
King of Dreamers
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Hercule runs up at the opponent and throws a barrage of kicks and punches to which the opponent does not react at all. He then lifts them and throws them into the air.
Hercule Miracle Bomber
Mr. Satan attacks the opponent with weak punches, and then tries to kick them, but the opponent hits Satan up in the air. When Mr. Satan comes falling down, he lands on the opponent dealing damage.
Hercule Ultra Dynamite
A High Speed Rush technique where Hercule releases a fast combo of kicks and punches on his enemy.
Rapid Movement Technique
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By moving at speeds faster than the human eye can track, Mr. Satan can create an after image of his body and use it as an optical illusion against his opponents. This technique is generally used to draw away an enemy’s fire, but can also be used to misdirect them so they can be snuck up from behind for counterattacks. He used it in ep 254 against the villains that shot Buu’s dog. (around 0:44).
False Courage
A supportive technique that envelopes Mr. Satan in a purple aura and increases his durability, as well as granting him immunity to flinching or being stunned.
Minor techniques
Fearful Fist : A simplistic dashing punch attack.
Volcanic Sting: A simplistic three hit punch attack used against a zombie in the Fusion Reborn movie.
Dan
Gadoken
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An imperfect imitation of Ryu's trademark “hadoken” projectile attack. Dan’s “Gadoken” has historically been criticized for having embarrassingly short range. However, it does have some positive attributes, such as being a great way to block/stop other incoming projectile attacks or being an easy way to quickly force his opponent on the defensive when they get too close. Additionally, the Gadoken has also gained some additional strength in recent years (due to Dan’s hard training) , and can travel bit further in 4, as well as hit an opponent twice before dissipating when Dan puts more of his physical stamina into the attack. Here’s him attempting to use in in the street fighter alpha movie here (1) You can also see him attempting to use it in the Sakura Gabaru Manga here (Sakura manga ch 1:pg 9-10)
Koryuken
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An imperfect imitation of Ryu’s trademark “shoryuken” attack. This move consists of an uppercut punch with the arm extended, with the knee raised corresponding to the arm. While this move has terrible recovery time and doesn’t travel far horizontally, it can act as a decent defense against aerial attacks.
Dan-Ku-Kyaku
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An imitation of Ryu’s trademark Tatsumaki kicking attack. Dan has 3 variations of this move. The first variation strikes the opponent exclusively with a knee jab and the second variant strikes the opponent with a knee jab followed by a kick. The final variation strikes the opponent with a knee jab, followed with two kicks. All variations of this move are notable for being able to more easily break opponent's guards, as well as stop Dan’s forward and backward momentum (potentially preventing him from running into attacks).
Koryu Rekka
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An imperfect imitation of Ken’s “Shoryureppa” technique. This attack consist of two Koryuken uppercut attacks, with the first being a quick short range uppercut and the second being faster and more powerful uppercut.
Shinku Gadoken
A more powerful upgraded version of Dan’s Gadoken attack.
Kyuukyoku Tenchi Gadou Zuki
An extremely powerful punching move useful for breaking through defenses and countering attacks. Unfortunately the attack also hits so hard that it does permanent damage to Dan’s hand, often causing him to be incredibly vulnerable right after using it.
Saikyo Defense
A defensive forward thrusting move that blunts damage.
Hissho Buraiken
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An extremely powerful barrage of kicks and punches that ends in a fierce Koryuken punch. While this attack is extremely powerful it also has a downside, it must be initiated from a near point blank range.
Shisso Buraiken
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An upgraded version of Dan’s Hissho Buraiken attack. It does not have the range weakness of the standard Hissho buraiken (Dan will rush in on his opponent while initiating the attack), and does around 30% more damage.
Haoh Gadouken
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The most powerful version of Dan’s Gadouken projectile attack, which strikes with 4x the damage of the original attack, and hits the opponent a total of six times before dissipating. This attack still maintains some of the range problems the original Gadouken (only extending a few feet) , but the extra power makes up for that somewhat. The sheer recoil of the attack blows Dan back several feet.
Otoko Michi
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A powerful kamikaze move used by Dan in the Marvel and SNK crossovers. It deals massive damage to an opponent, but typically reduces Dan’s HP to near 0, making it a final resort type move. In some games it doesn’t reduce Dan’s health, but does less damage to compensate.
Satsui no Hado
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It’s been implied in the Udon comics that Dan’s had the potential to use the satsui no hado powers typically synonymous with Evil Ryu and Akuma. It’s fueled by negative emotions(anger,hate, the need to win at any cost,ect) and would presumably grant Dan a huge boost in physical ability if he could control it, though the only times he could channel it into a transformation he lost it after a few seconds (either due to tripping over a schoolbag or just getting hit with a powerful attack mid transformation).
Taunting
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In addition to his more practical techniques, Dan also has an affinity for “taunting” his opponents in the middle of battles. None of these taunts actually do physical damage to his opponents, but they do seem to invigorate Dan himself, as Dan’s stamina increases each time he does them. His ‘Legendary Taunt’ and ‘Mystical Tuatara’ particularly notable, as they both involve a complex choreography of rolling, ass spanking and fist pumping that can last anywhere between seconds and minutes.
Premium Sign
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Dan autographs a portrait of himself and flings it at the opponent. It’s mostly used as a taunt, although it can cause opponents to flinch and can impede projectiles.
Fighting style
Hercule
Hercules fighting style is never given a name, though it could be called Satan style or something like that. It seems to be primarily a hard martial art, focusing on pressuring and physical strikes. Mr. Satan has also incorporated a lot of human made weapons and equipment into his arsenal in the DBZ games, giving him good distance options and mobility.
Dan
Dan employs a self-taught fighting style known as Saikyo-ryu (The Strongest Style) which is a combination of elements of the basic fundamentals taken from the fighting style of his former master Gouken, as well as some elements from Muay Thai. Because of this, Dan’s fighting style often shares similarities with famous Street Fighter characters like Ryu’s and Ken’s, having very similar moves and sharing most of the same basic principles. However Dan’s fighting style has been noted to be looser and lighter on its feet compared to the others. Likewise his fighting style also has some distinct weakness Dan has yet to fully address (the projectile range for example) compared to Gouken’s original fighting style, it’s considered not nearly as effective.
Feats
Hercule
Strength & Destructive power
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Barring the Z-fighters Hercule could punch harder than any fighter in the 25th martial arts tournament, including a large bear like creature. He generally averaged about 2x the strength of most of the human combatants.
He could kick Spopovich a dozen or feet away with a single kick.
In the movie Bojack unbound Hercule used a karate chop to break a stack of stone tiles that was at least one or two stories high. He’s also chopped through stacks of tiles 15-20 tiles in length on several occasions.
In episode 174 (towards the first few minutes) of DBZ there was several scenes of Hercule putting on a “show of strength for a crowd”. This Included pulling 4 full sized tour bushes several dozen feet, tearing a stack of 3 large phonebooks in half with his bare hands and punching through the outer shell of one of the tour bushes with ease (although he also got his arm stuck after doing it).
Speed and Agility
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-Mr. Satan actually does show himself to be able to punch and kick at fairly high speeds while fighting kid Buu in episode 282 of the DBZ anime . He also shows himself to attack fairly quickly when fighting 18 in episode 226. Obviously given the strength of difference with his opponents, his attacks in those scenes don’t much damage, but against a weaker opponent that speed could do him quite well.
-He could briefly use the rapid movement technique against a gunman in the dbz anime. The speed of movement needed to instantaneously move a human sized object from a still position so fast it appears to disappear from view , is impossible by normal human standards, and clearly falls into the range of superhuman.
-Has ran fast enough to dodge a missile and its explosions.
-Displayed the ability to jump over 8 feet in the air during his fight with Spopovich.
Durability and Endurance
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-He’s been bitched-slapped by Cell with enough force to send him several dozen feet in the air and into a mountain (DBZ ep 176).
-Punched in the face by Kid Trunks hard enough to get imbedded in a stone wall (DBZ ep 213).
-Punched in the face by Kid Buu.
-Has survived being tossed around in the shockwaves of Kid Buu vs SSJ3 Goku. Also falling off a cliff.
-Kicked in the stomach by Omega Shenron (DBGT ep 59). Although it is implied (and very likely) that none of the mentioned characters were using anywhere close to their strongest attacks.
Dan
Strength & Destructive Power
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-His Gadoken is the equivalent of a light punch or tap, so it’s more powerful versions could conceivably do considerable damage if they connect. They can stop projectiles from top tier fighters, but there is little to suggest they can actually compare to their power outside of gameplay.
-Like all Street Fighters, Dan is capable of destroying a car.
-His Shisso Buraiken attack can fling a fully grown man or woman about a story or so into the air.
Speed & Agility
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Quickly took down multiple opponents in Zero HK comic.
Dan can roll around at fairly high speeds. He also taught Blanka how to roll for his attacks, apparently.
He was shown to be able to jump about 1-2 stories in the air in the Sakura manga fighting tournament.
Durability & Endurance
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Survived being pile drived into concrete by Zangief.
Ken mentions that Dan has a lot of endurance in comparison to the average fighter during his fight with him in the Sakura manga (ch4:pg3 and pg 9-10). After a wicked punch from Ken in the Sakura manga he also fell a story of two and crashed into a car.
Dan’s taken a beating from various street fighters on more than one occasion. The most impressive of those cases being when Makoto struck him into a building roof and hundreds of feet into the air. It should be noted that he has had to be temporarily hospitalized after some of his higher end beat downs however.
Training/Experience
Hercule
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-While he may have been an arrogant jerk for much of the series, Hercule did formally train as a martial artist and did win his first martial arts tournament legitimately.
-Somehow keeps managing to convince the entire planet that his obvious lies are true.
-Hercule has realized how outclassed he is by the Z fighters and their enemies to an extent,
which has tempered his arrogance in more recent media.
-His fight with Spopovich is also a good show of actual competence against non-Z fighters. (1)
Dan
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-Ironically despite Dan’s mockery by almost everyone in his universe, he actually is a fairly decent fighter when compared to most average martial artists. In fact in the Sakura Street Fighter Manga he was depicted as being relatively competent and was knowledgeable about the ins and outs of martial arts/ki, but seemed to lack the natural talent/strength found in the stronger characters (which made it more difficult for him to learn new techniques). You can see what we mean by reading these pages of that manga (Sakura manga ch 1:pg 9, Ch 3:Pg 6-7 ).
-The Zero HK comic also paints him as fairly competent when not fighting the other Street Fighters, being able to shoot his projectiles a bit farther, take hits well, having some degree of super speed and single handedly taking down a group of thugs (Zero HK comics, 1)
-In terms of game mechanics Dan has gotten stronger in recent years (Street Fighter 4) , to the point where he actually can be considered a legitimate opponent to some characters.
-Dan has “trained” two Street Fighter characters, Blanka and Sakura (even though Sakura tends to just disregard everything he teaches her ).
Weaknesses
Hercule
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After becoming champion Hercule greatly neglected his training, to the point where his daughter Videl surpassed him. He also tends to back down from most fights before they begin, giving him a very lackluster number of fights in his series overall. He also may panic if an opponent uses Ki attacks or other outlandish abilities given his run ins with the Z fighters. Finally he tends to show pain and recoil very easily in a fight, even when he doesn’t receive high damage.
Dan
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Dan trains more consistently than Hercule, but he trains based on a flawed foundation as far as fighting style is concerned (due to being disowned by his original master before he could learn anything on the level of Ryu or Ken). This overall makes a lot of his moves ineffective in a legitimate fight against more powerful fighters.
His “victory” over Sagat has gone to his head, making him overconfident, proud and not too bright, meaning he could easily be manipulated under the right circumstances.
Summary
Hercule
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Advantages
-Has more strength feats overall than Dan does, including some that are superhuman.
-While it's TECHNICALLY true Dan's taken punishment more often, some of his higher end feats landed him in the hospital. In comparison Hercule's shrugged off his hits much better, getting up right after the trunk/cell hits with no permanent damage, albeit with some pain (heck he wasn't even knocked out).
-Faster. Outran a missile and it's explosion. Also managed to perform the high speed movement tech. The latter is outright impossible for a normal human to replicate in real life.
-Actually got complete formal training from a martial arts master.
-Surprisingly superior rannge. The Gadoken is WIDELY known for not extending more than about 5 feet in range. Even with just a gun Hercule would trump that.
-Probably will fight more conservatively or dirty when he sees Dan can perform Ki attacks (since more powerful beings in his verse tend to use them).
Disadvantages
-Lacks consistent training: Slacked off on his training after winning his tournament.
-He took Gohan’s claim to beating cell, Gohan took his daughter’s virginity.
Dan
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Advantages
-While he can't take as much punishment as Hercule, he is more willing to continue fighting while hurt than Satan is.
-Technically some of the enhanced Gadoken attacks can do a decent amount of damage up close. He also has those kamikaze attacks from some crossovers. That being said Dan only take this if you completely ignore all the weapons Hercule was shown to use in the game (which includes many explosives). Even then I still fully believe DB will at least give him the game poy bomb, making this category a questionable win.
-Dan trains more often than Hercule and is more willing to take on opponents out of his league.
-HE’S DAN FUCKING HIBIKI, YO!
Disadvantages
-Arrogant, foolish and prideful.
-While Dan does have knowledge of martial arts, he never got complete training from a master. Most of his moves are imperfect imitations of others and tend to have glaring problems with them because of that (range and power mostly).
-He’s... Dan fucking Hibiki.
Additional Links for Hercule and Dan.
Samuraispartan7000
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As much as I love Dan’s tenacity, there’s not much he can do against Hercule Satan. Based on what I have researched, there’s absolutely no evidence suggesting that Dan can withstand gunfire. Based on that fact alone, I feel Hercule takes this pretty easily. Sure Dan might rough him up a bit before guns get involved… But I have a hard time believing that Dan has the amount of pain tolerance required to withstand a few well-placed shots.
On top of that, Hercule is just a better fighter overall. He has better training and vastly superior strength feats. He was even able to survive a backhand from Cell. A single stroke from that guy should be leaps and bounds above anything that Dan is capable of. The winner is definitely Hercule Satan.
AkumaTh
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I think with or without the weapons, Hercule got this. With the weapons, he has a gun which would kill Dan Hibiki pretty easily. Without the weapons, Hercule shows better strength and durability feats. Not to mention he did win more matches prior to being the World Martial Arts Champion compared to Dan. And as much as my own fiction may suggest, the Street Fighter Universe is nowhere near as powerful as the Dragonball Universe. The fact Hercule survived as long as he did is a testament to something.
But I wouldn’t doubt this would most likely end up a double KO.
Ultraguy
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So I’ll start off by saying what I don’t think will be a factor in this fight. Chiefly Brazillian Dan and Dan’s VERY limited ability to use the dark hado. Firstly Brazilian Dan is waaaaay to different from mainline Dan or any of his other more mainstream comic counterparts to be considered for this battle. We’re talking like a super duper serious version of Dan(who’s chiefly a comic relief character) who could legitimately beat Sagata in a fight, when his cannon version could only win when Sagata purposely lost to him. It would be like using ultimate wolverine or the new series version of lion-o.
Also Dan’s never successfully utilized the powers of satsui no hado at any point in the series and only very briefly tapped into its power twice. In both cases his “transformation” was incredibly unstable and canceled after one hit or from tripping due to his own clumsiness. He can’t use it effectively as a combat tool. Additionally regarding the “raging demon” move which he attempted to use on one of those chases. Dan’s never successfully hit with that attack, and he doesn’t have the full training, experience or skill of those who have used it successfully in the past(Ryu and Akuma, who either studied a style derived from one that originally used dark hado or studied dark hado extensively and was directly taught the technique respectively). Dark hado is also fueled by negative emotions like rage, and anger, which Dan doesn’t have as much of anymore due to the fact he “avenged” his father by beating Sagat elating his spirits. To be fair the need to win at any costs and intent to murder facets that activate it could apply here(since it is a DB), however Hercule’s already faster than Dan(explained below) and will probably start being careful around him anyway given his past experiences that got his master killed.
Anyway disregarding that Hercule beats Dan on all three aspects of the stat trinity. In terms of endurance both have survived around the same caliber of beatings, with both having been flung hundreds of feet into the air before and both having been embedded in brick/concrete by powerful attacks. However Hercule shakes of this kinda damage MUCH easier. Every time Dan took significant punishment like that(mainly in udon) he was knocked out instantly and in many cases hospitalized(Being pile drived by zangief resulted in this for example). Hercule takes the same punishment and never gets any major injuries and is often able to stand up or walk around fairly easily(heck he even put on a convincing show of not being hurt to the audience that watched his fight with trunks).
In terms of strength Hercule also triumphs. There are barely any strength feats for Dan beyond being able to hit a grown man into the air and his gadoken attacks(which are compared to a light punch at base and are only around 4x as strong in their upgraded versions). Not only can hercule match the whole hitting a grown man into the air thing(spopavitch to an extent), but he can karate chop a 1-2 story high tower of stone tiles, punch through steel and pull 4 incredibly large buses on his own.
Next speed and agility. Again Dan doesn’t have many good feats. He’s fast enough to take on multiple assailants at once or jump a story or so in the air, but so can Hercule.He’s also occasionally clumsy and has almost never tagged any of the street fighters in a fight unless they let him(and even then that’s normally just because they can absorb the blow). Hercule’s outrun a missile explosion and can perform the rapid movement technique. Even without exact numbers, rapid movement is FAR beyond what is humanly possible in the real world. A human sized object simply can’t move fast enough from a standstill position to appear to disappear like that from a common person's perspective, and doing so requires serious speed clearly beyond anything Dan has displayed.
Anyway outside of stats there’s also the fact that Dan is incredibly prideful and not to bright. I fully believe Hercule will attempt to manipulate him to his favor, on the likely chance he panics upon seeing Dan use a ki attack.
Finally the icing on the cake, Hercule’s equipment. There’s been a lot of debate regarding whether he should have it(which I’m personally in favor of since Hercule’s consistently gotten that stuff in games for a decade, it’s in character, other DB contestants have gotten non-canon stuff, and it’s only fair since we’re giving spin-off manga/moves to Dan)however even with a minimum amount(just the gun and game poy bomb which he used in cannon) that would clearly be enough to give Hercule an edge in terms of range. Dan’s projectile attacks are TERRIBLE in terms of range, and Hercule having a gun would easily guarantee he could fight like a coward at a distance. The game poy bomb would also give him extra insurance given that silver tongue of his.
and of course with all his equipment he would stomp. I mean seriously a jetpack, missile launchers, grenades and mines? That gives him even more speed, air mobility, better ranged attacks and a much higher destructive capability than Dan when he already had the advantage in all those categories to begin with.
Overall Hercule’s got the edge in this fight no matter how you slice it. The only even remotely category may be experience, since both have proven themselves against normal combatants in battle. Though it’s worth noting that while Hercule slacked on his exercise, he still got FULL training from a master while Dan didn’t.
If you’re a dbz fan you’ll finally catch a break for once.
LSwan62
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This fight isn’t a stomp any way you look at it, but it is definitive, and the winner should be Hercule unless he’s weirdly nerfed (somehow that seems impossible, though). That’s not to say Dan doesn’t have any advantages in the fray. His training has been far more consistent compared to Hercule’s, who’s had the benefit (or disadvantage, in this case) of coasting off of his debatably-earned successes. He also has a well-defined martial arts fighting style, mixing Gouken’s teachings with Muay Thai, compared to Hercule’s...whatever he does to beat the shit out of people. With that out of the way, Dan can go back to being a loser.
The first thing ya gots tah always do is look at that stat trinity (which in this case will replace DC with strength since it’s more appropriate), and Hercule comes ahead in all three categories. He’s stronger (the punching machine from the 25th Tenkaichi Budokai proving as much, with the stone blocks and buses supplementing that), faster (rapid movement technique), and more durable (tanking casual blows from Cell, Trunks, Kid Buu, and Omega Shenron). The last is especially important, because whereas similar attacks from Makoto and Zangief (by similar looking I mean what the effect looked like since it’s impossible to quantify the difference between serious Street Fighters and ultra-casual DBZ characters) put Dan in the hospital, Hercule was able to survive relatively unscathed. A broken nose, a couple of broken ribs, some bruising maybe, but the fact remains he got up and was able to pretend like it was no big deal. I mean, he was an enormous baby about it, but that’s beside the point in a DB.
As for the other factors, Dan only has Hercule outclassed in range if Hercule’s arsenal is removed, which is probably unlikely to happen in full. The jetpack gives him aerial superiority, the various bombs give him a DC advantage, and he’s just smarter and more clever as well. Hercule may be more of a coward than Dan, especially after seeing him pop off a Gadouken, but as we all know, when Hercule gets scared he gets serious and starts thinking. He was able to jive his way out of being mercilessly beaten by Android 18 and Majin Buu, and although he wasn’t able to convert those to physical defeats or kills, I don’t see why he wouldn’t be able to here. He may be afraid of taking on people outside of his ability, but Dan is by no means outside of his ability, and is in fact physically inferior. I honestly think the OMM had the most thematically and logically perfect ending with the Game Poy Bomb, since if Hercule were to use chicanery to get the kill, that’s probably how he’d do it.
Oh and Dan never beat Sagat. That’s ridiculous. So is Brazilian Dan. Stahp.
All hail Satan.
LousyTactician
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Beginning with the advantages I can solidly give Dan, he has better fighting techniques, and more consistent training… Beyond that, Hercule has just about everything else.
I don’t think the fight is a stomp, but Hercule is better equipped, packing better feats of strength, and has survived attacks at least on par, if not better than what Dan takes. Dan's more Gung Ho, but that's honestly to his detriment here. Hercule has shown himself to be perfectly willing to fight dirty, and will no doubt use some cheap tricks to ensure victory when he sees Dan can pull off similar looking (but far less effective) Ki blasts than the Z fighters.
Even the training advantage I hesitantly give Dan since Mr. Satan has actually completed his training while Dan has not. Some people have tried to bring in Brazillian Dan, but I think doing so would be... Questionable to say the least. Said version of Dan is completely inconsistent with literally every other incarnation of the pink karate master. Some have also suggested that Hercule wouldn't win without his weapon, but, while the match would certainly be much closer I still genuinely think Hercule has enough advantages to deceive and tough out his way to victory.
Dan's like, one of my favorite Street Fighter characters, but Hercule has this fight. GG Satan supporters.
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